Beauty And The Beast (20)

August 10th, 2017, 9:00 am

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Reply Pharaoh Man, August 10th, 2017, 12:19 pm

I decided to do the next round immediately and left the plot for later. Currently on the Baryl/Anetta fight.

I need a drink.

Reply Advertisement, December 16th, 2017, 2:58 am

Reply SonicKnightFrazor (Guest), August 10th, 2017, 2:41 pm

And thus ends round 1 of the world tournament. So are you doing the fighting order in reverse? That makes sense since you can build up more suspense/hype towards the awaited Mega Vs Guts fight. Then again we haven't gotten screen time from Regurk or Zero in a while...

Reply Kristina Vera (Guest), August 11th, 2017, 10:28 am

So the matchups are... Megaman vs. Gutsman- We finally get to see Gutsman's new move!
Shadowman vs. Protoman- Should be a very interesting matchup.
Bass vs. Starman- Dr. Hikari is going to get wreck!
Colonel vs. Plantman- Can Anetta defeat Baryl!? Stay tuned and find out!
I think all four of these matches are going to be enjoyable in their own way. Whatever the filler chapter is going to be, should make things interesting and might end up not being a filler chapter at all.

Reply Omegaxis1 (Guest), August 11th, 2017, 3:35 pm

Already made my predictions last chapter. Looking forward to the results on whether they come true or not.

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, August 12th, 2017, 12:38 pm

@Kristina Vera: We already got to see it.

Reply Kristina Vera (Guest), August 12th, 2017, 12:50 pm

@Shadow_Da_Hedgie: Not all of it.

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, August 12th, 2017, 4:15 pm

@Kristina Vera: No, we literally saw all that it entails back on the ship during the party. Dex showed it off against Chaud.

Reply slaybay, August 13th, 2017, 6:27 am

@Kristina Vera: Anetta ain't gonna win

Reply GhostmanSP, August 13th, 2017, 6:20 pm

@SonicKnightFrazor: I believe he is finishing the last battle of the next round.

Reply Pharaoh Man, August 13th, 2017, 8:11 pm


Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 17th, 2017, 12:26 am

In regards to last page predictions... For those of you who think bass is going to spare or be unable to delete Starman because of Serenade's program I would like to remind you this comic is continued after megaman battle network 6 meaning it, to some degree follows the battle network series and what you are suggesting is that serenade is powerful enough after getting absorbed after megaman battle network 1-6 is extremely unlikely, to date, considering what bass has gone through and lived through, he has taken the Life Virus's barrier, Gospal, which is a massive bug program which might I add is a giant sized black glitched out wolf, and absorbed it, got eaten by Alpha which was the net before the net which is the current net and is like a hive mind in the fact it can create more copies of itself through small alpha virus's, lucky megaman deleted it before more alpha's popped up since they did not reach a stage where they could survive without the original, except the 1 that gets megaman near the exit in megaman battle network 3, the dark chips are another example of bass being able to withstand not being corrupt when might I add both megaman and protoman succumbed to them for at least a short bit of time, and both required assistence to get back to normal, but bass has never once required assistence for the dark chips, not to mention, he has not even been corrupted by them, that says a lot about Bass's ability to not be controlled and for the final icing on the cake Bass absorbed the other cybeast depending on whether you played gregar or falzar, which are even more destructive than the other boss's because they shock the entire world net with just a roar, not a single one of the other boss can even compare to, considering they could only affect one network or a couple not the entire world's net, and if anyone beat falzar or gregar you would know megaman did not beat the cybeast he faced instead he came close and then got overtaken by the cybeast he face, he needed the original colonal's and original Iris's help just to log out and not even Iris and colonel combined together were able to survive the cybeast, they had to destroy themselves just to delete the cybeast and bass absorbed one of them and was not corrupted, even in the final battle in megaman battle network 6 it states that even though it looked like bass was deleted, that he was in fact still alive and you think serenade's data can overpower him, so he doesn't delete Starman, it would take a literal miracle for that to ever happen, the only way I can legitimately see Starman survive the fight with bass, is if bass sees him has a weakling who is so weak that he doesn't even want to waste his energy deleting him, because it ins't worth bass's time, or worst case scenario bass straight-up massacres Starman and deletes him, because I highly doubt with almost 100% chance that nothing will allow anything to save Starman from bass, with only one other exception is that somehow serenade's data or someone else appeals to Bass's good will, because if not the only will that is gonna be written, will be the last testament of Starman before he gets offed.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 17th, 2017, 12:33 am

also.. My above comment and prediction is not to biased or offensive but using the battle networks games as basis for my prediction based on prior prediction and my feeling to pitch in to add to them.

Reply Omegaxis1 (Guest), August 17th, 2017, 6:58 am

@LovedDarkLonelinessEevee: That was a HUGE clump of a paragraph to read. I recommend that you at least try to separate the paragraphs more so that they are more legible to be read.

Anyways, to respond to your case, in ALL of those cases that you are mentioning, the things that Bass has been absorbing all had a single thing in common: the desire to absorb or destroy.

Not a single thing you mentioned in there are anything like Serenade. She's not someone that seeks to absorb or destroy others. Yes, this comic made her resolve herself to destroy Bass, but beyond anything, Serenade's only wanted to help Bass get better before. Now that Serenade's been absorbed by Bass, part of her own will is also absorbed.

Of course, I could be wrong about it, like you said. We'll just have to wait and see how that battle goes. But clearly when Bass absorbed Serenade, something happened to him.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 18th, 2017, 3:00 pm

@Omegaxis1 Thank you for your comment,

however what I was referring to is that

serenade's data can stop bass and that would involve corruption or control
both of which bass has not only resisted, but stopped and have even won against where others (like megaman and protoman:examples Dark chips, /megaman's cybeast.) have not,

what you would be suggesting is that serenades data can control or corrupt bass to the point where he is unable to kill Starman,

but he has resisted and won against things much more powerful than serenade,

furthermore, Alpha and Gregar are both boss's that I have no doubt can defeat serenade, in Alpha is that you repeatedly have to hit his core to even start to damage him and that he has multi attacks like rapid fire and that even once you reach his core it will regenerate back and then you have to destroy it once again,

in Gregar's case it is his full body attacks in which he cannot be hit and which if they don't hit you with the first part of the body the next part of the body will.

it isn't that they purely absorb everything or destroy everything,

it is that they were more than powerful enough to affect much more than a single area or even powerful netnavi's

and bass even when defeated by Alpha survived being eaten

and absorbing a cybeast is even more impressive considering a cybeast when they are both together can affect the whole worlds net with just a roar,

if bass can absorb one that would be almost if not exactly like having the power to destroy or be able to effect half of the entire world's net

which is why I do not believe Serenade's data is going to stop bass even if absorbed and made a part of bass,

because Alpha could not stop him

and not even a cybeast could stop him and if you played the game's

you would know Serenade is not powerful enough to stop or destroy a cybeast let alone absorb one, therefore there is no way Serenade can stop bass who can and has absorbed one.

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, August 22nd, 2017, 1:41 pm

@LovedDarkLonelinessEevee: A huge dump of text. Let's see how much of it is possible to refute. Although it doesn't actually matter, considering this doesn't necessarily follow the Battle Network rules and mechanics. But, since you went off the series, I will go off it as well.

Bass did not 'take' the Life Virus' Aura, otherwise the Life Virus wouldn't have had an aura at all. He copied it. That's what Bass does, he has a 'Copy Program' ability. It's somewhat similar to Classic Mega Man's variable weapon system. But in any case, continuing on...

He didn't absorb Gospel. I'll get to that in a minute because it ties into the next point... He survived being eaten by Alpha. So did Wily, so... yeah. He didn't escape unscathed though, and that's when the remains of Gospel found him and saved him by fusing with him and using bugs to heal him. Likely as a reference to the Classic Series' Treble Boost, since Gospel is Treble's Japanese name. Bass didn't absorb it, as such, it fused with him. In Bass' own words, it saved him.

Mega Man only succumbs to the effects of the Dark Chip if you use them in 4 outside of the one time they are mandatory. Proto Man... yes, he succumbed to them after Chaud used one, but he was still able to be brought back. If you're going to bring up Mega Man's Dark Soul... that's not proof of anything. It is stated in the game that everyone has a Dark Soul. Even those who haven't used Dark Chips. In 5, you could say he succumbs to them. But again, he gets brought back with no ill effects and you can use the Dark Chips for Chaos Unisons without suffering the ill effects.

And did Bass actually absorb the Cybeast? From what I remember, Mega Man, Colonel and Iris took care of them. He may have managed to absorb the remains, or copy some of their data from the GospelBeast/FalzarBeast you have to fight before you fight his final form.

Onto the next post...

Bass didn't merge with the Cybeast in the same way Mega Man did. And Mega Man did keep the Cybeast under control for the most part. Everytime he succumbed to them, it was due to outside interference, which Bass never had to deal with.

And no, Alpha or the Cybeast's likely could not defeat Serenade. They wouldn't be able to get past their aura/dodging/countering, which even goes as far to protect Serenade from chips that stop time. Alpha is a special case, who might be able to absorb Serenade... but then again, Bass nearly got killed by Alpha as well. So that's hardly relevant in this discussion of Serenade vs Bass.

As for the Cybeasts... they would have no way of getting past Serenade's aura. They wouldn't know to wait until Serenade attacks, since they are mindless beasts. I'll admit that Serenade could not absorb them... BUT THAT'S BECAUSE SERENADE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ABSORB THEM. So saying that Serenade couldn't absorb them is correct... but irrelevant. It's like saying a bird is better than a fish because a fish can't fly. Or that Gutsman is better than Mega Man because Mega Man cannot crack panels without chips.

You also claim that Bass has resisted the won against things much more powerful than Serenade... but in the games, Bass and Serenade have fought. And Bass lost. The only reason Bass won in the comic is because he had Sean backing him up.

And yes, Bass survived being absorbed by Alpha. But not without injury, and likely only because of Mega Man and Lan defeating the main body of Alpha, and Gospel finding him. And we have already seen that absorbing Serenade's data did have an effect on Bass.

I'm not saying that Serenade's data will overpower or corrupt Bass. Just that it might influence him. Bass absorbed and took Serenade's powers, after all. And remember what Serenade said the source of his power was, in MMBN3? He said the source of his power was 'mercy'. Chances are Bass has absorbed Serenade's 'mercy' along with his powers.

He may very well simply pass it off as Star Man not being worth deleting. But even if it wouldn't happen in the games, mark my words, absorbing Serenade's data will change Bass. Because after all, if we're just talking about the games... Bass wouldn't be able to defeat Serenade anyway. He tried before, and failed. The only reason he succeeded here was Sean operating him and helping him.

Although, you did also mention Dark Chips not having any effect on Bass... in this comic, they do. They drain his bugfrags, and as seen at the end of the Dark Man fight, overuse of them can have an... interesting effect on him.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 22nd, 2017, 6:45 pm

@Shadow_Da_Hedgie okay I suppose you are correct, but you misunderstood me on some of the points,

I was referring not to serenade influencing bass, but controlling him,

aka Serenade's data that boss copied forcing Bass to be unable to kill Starman,

the proof I provided was his ability to resist corruption, not completely negate it,
aka alpha and yes you are correct about Gospel I forgot that at the end of MMBN 2 that he did not absorb Gospel,

it was a clone of bass that became Gospel, as for the next part,

yes he would have died if not for the remains of Gospel

and it is true that Wily also survived, but his case was slightly different to bass who was data,

wily was converted into data, meaning Wily probably made a backup plan to survive if his avatar got deleted or devoured, although he still did pay a price like the others, those chairs looked like they hurt... a lot.

second the cybeast bass absorbed is after the cybeast fight in the end game and I wasn't referring to the normal end game fight I was referring to the Special final boss fight with bass after facing the data remains of megaman-falzar/megaman-gregar, once you complete everything else in the game, aka the library and story elements and in that part of the game, Bass says he absorbed the cybeast and wanted to absorbed the other one that megaman had,

also I was referring to Serenade's power when comparing them, I meant that it takes a lot more power to absorb something or even copy it onto yourself, furthermore Serenade says that she was almost deleted by bass in MMBN 3 so on that note, Bass has been through even more then that since then, so I had no doubt that bass was going to win that fight, because I already knew,

and I know Basses copy ability is not taking, I meant he absorbed the ability, aka he took the ability for himself, not making the ones he took abilities from unable to use them, just that he took aka added their abilities to bass's own, also sorry for these massive dumps of data space, their is just a lot to explain when it comes to bass and his exploits and strengths.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 22nd, 2017, 6:49 pm

also... @Shadow_Da_Hedgie: your right I forgot about that in this comic bass's immuntity to dark chips is explained and he loses bugs when using them I forgot about that part, In regards to that though I would also like to say that megaman and protoman both required outside help, they were not able to suppress their Dark soul on their own protoman in MMBN 4 Red Sun and MMBN 5 when megaman got overcome by his Dark soul and was one of the liberation boss's.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 22nd, 2017, 6:57 pm

also... outside of Sean,

Bass has never needed help from anyone resisting bugs or data corruption,

that is why I just don't think Serenade's data is going to stop bass

since that is data corruption or control both of which bass has resisted all on his own,

plus Sean if anything is even more help to preventing Serenade's data from stopping bass,

since he has already helped bass realizes that he almost lost himself in that fight which you refer to when he got overcome for a second by the dark chips and then Sean said his name and he came back to his senses, although I wonder if Sean realizes that bass lost control for a moment.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 22nd, 2017, 7:00 pm

anyhow... these are just my speculations, plus my reasons for them, so it is very welcome if you want to debate them or even talk about them, so thanks to Shadow_Da_Hedgie for bring up their points and I hope you all have a wonderful day!

Reply Shadow_Da_Hedgie, August 22nd, 2017, 7:25 pm

@LovedDarkLonelinessEevee: You need to stop using Bass' ability to copy data of powerful as a sign of his strength. Serenade can't absorb or copy data because they were not designed with the ability to do so. Bass was. So saying that Serenade is not as powerful as Bass because Bass can absorb data is like saying a shark is less powerful that a hawk because the hawk can fly. It might not be inaccurate, but the fact that the hawk can fly, and can use that to do things the shark cannot, does not necessarily mean it is more powerful.

Nor is pointing out that Mega Man and Proto Man succumbed to their Dark Souls, considering both can fight and defeat Bass in the games.

Not to mention you point out Bass has gotten stronger since MMBN3, at some point beforehand he nearly deleted Serenade. Considering Serenade is in one of the toughest areas in MMBN3, with the toughest viruses, not to mention they were likely still performing duties as the Underking, even if they were no longer technically the Underking. So do you really think Serenade just sat around and did nothing, didn't get any more powerful?

Bass fought once against Serenade, and lost. Even if Bass did get more powerful, he never would have gotten through Serenade's aura and would have lost. He only won because of Sean. Hence why he spent the first half of the fight on the receiving end of a curb stomp. If Bass had been on his own, he would have lost. Even if Serenade had been on their own too.

And clearly, something changed with Bass when he absorbed Serenade's data. And like I mentioned, the source of Serenade's power was mercy. And in taking Serenade's power into his body, he likely took in Serenade's mercy as well. It's not a case of Serenade's data overpowering Bass, because Bass took the data into his body willingly. Serenade's data may not be able to dictate exactly what Bass does, but it will be able to influence his actions and interfere, since he took it willingly into his body, so it's not invading, it's already there.

Even if you are right, and Bass is more powerful than Serenade... Doesn't mean Bass is the one who is always going to win a fight, whether a fight of will, a fight of violence... Or a fight against the data he absorbed into his own body.

Reply LovedDarkLonelinessEevee, August 22nd, 2017, 8:41 pm

okay, I see your point... @Shadow_Da_Hedgie: I am not trying to say one character is completely better,

but I did just want to point out the differences between the 2,

I just have my own opinion on who would win in a fight and you are correct that I have no doubt that Serenade was without question fighting in undernet,

I was referring to mention of that experience not necessarily canon experiences, but mentions of their experience in the games,

plus you don't really hear about Serenade after MMBN 3,

but you hear of bass every time in every game if not almost all of them,

so it is just my opinion I hope I did not offend you Shadow_Da_Hedgie,

I just wanted to state my own speculation, based on my own reasoning's of why I Feel this will happen and if it does not that is fine too.

I just Loved the megaman battle network games, they were my favorite megaman games with the next being starforce, which sadly never got passed 3,I really wanted to see what they did next with those,

but in this comic which follows after the megaman battle network 6 game's events,

I have my own opinions about how things will go and I am just interested to see how it all turns out.

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